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	<title>Comments on: A sad state of affairs: open source in the UK</title>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; How not to negotoate a software contract</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-243007</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; How not to negotoate a software contract</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of mine but I hope you will forgive me as it does relate to open source and, in particular, the puzzling problem of source&#8217;s inability to make headway in UK [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; A learning experience</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-226891</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; A learning experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A sad state of affairs, indeed.  Permalink &#124;  Technorati Links &#124; Bookmark on del.icio.us &#124; digg it   Categories: Software [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Is FOSS heading for an identity crisis?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-224988</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Is FOSS heading for an identity crisis?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] During a recent meeting with open source services firm Sirius it was suggested to me by Tom Callway and Mark Taylor that the Green movement could provide a model of how open source will come to be more widely adopted in the UK despite current ambivalence. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] During a recent meeting with open source services firm Sirius it was suggested to me by Tom Callway and Mark Taylor that the Green movement could provide a model of how open source will come to be more widely adopted in the UK despite current ambivalence. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; David Cameron: open source visionary or opportunist?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-217133</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; David Cameron: open source visionary or opportunist?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] source visionary or opportunist? Matthew Aslett, April 3, 2008 @ 10:20 am ET  Given my previous lamentations about the state of open source adoption in the UK, it is good to see David Cameron, leader of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] source visionary or opportunist? Matthew Aslett, April 3, 2008 @ 10:20 am ET  Given my previous lamentations about the state of open source adoption in the UK, it is good to see David Cameron, leader of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We see the same in the US.  I think part of the solution is to pick problems that are specific enough to the field (ie, education, government) that there's enough customer demand (paying or otherwise) and passion to move them forward.

In the US, one prime example is how students are assigned to schools within a city.
There's constant disagreements about policy and the implementations are fairly pitiful.  &lt;b&gt;Opening school assignment apps, algorithms, and (anonymized) data as &lt;a href="http://io.yort.com/open-source-school-assignment-algorithms/" title="open source" rel="nofollow"&gt;open source&lt;/a&gt; would let outsiders participate, tweak, and maybe even mash it into other Web services.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We see the same in the US.  I think part of the solution is to pick problems that are specific enough to the field (ie, education, government) that there&#8217;s enough customer demand (paying or otherwise) and passion to move them forward.</p>
<p>In the US, one prime example is how students are assigned to schools within a city.<br />
There&#8217;s constant disagreements about policy and the implementations are fairly pitiful.  <b>Opening school assignment apps, algorithms, and (anonymized) data as <a href="http://io.yort.com/open-source-school-assignment-algorithms/" title="open source" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/io.yort.com');">open source</a> would let outsiders participate, tweak, and maybe even mash it into other Web services.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Skog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-191466</link>
		<dc:creator>Skog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Scandinavian that have settled in the UK I can with absolute certainty state that the British class system is alive and kicking. The "Political Class" is a snappy book title but it still is the old class system. The ideals of Free and Open Source Software does not integrate easily in a country where the personal wealth of the Monark is the highest in the land. Places in the British Legislature is being sold and Ministers of Parliament where outraged when the police investigated the latest round of sales. Some protested that this was common knowledge and therefore the police should not cause the Oxford graduates in charge embarrassment by investigating. No sane person believes Tony Blair did not know about the sale of peerages for party donations. There is no donations to be had from the FOSS movement and no lucrative directorships either so it is going to be an uphill struggle to spread the good news. We shall prevail - off with their heads - long live the revolution:_)

Skog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Scandinavian that have settled in the UK I can with absolute certainty state that the British class system is alive and kicking. The &#8220;Political Class&#8221; is a snappy book title but it still is the old class system. The ideals of Free and Open Source Software does not integrate easily in a country where the personal wealth of the Monark is the highest in the land. Places in the British Legislature is being sold and Ministers of Parliament where outraged when the police investigated the latest round of sales. Some protested that this was common knowledge and therefore the police should not cause the Oxford graduates in charge embarrassment by investigating. No sane person believes Tony Blair did not know about the sale of peerages for party donations. There is no donations to be had from the FOSS movement and no lucrative directorships either so it is going to be an uphill struggle to spread the good news. We shall prevail - off with their heads - long live the revolution:_)</p>
<p>Skog</p>
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		<title>By: dogStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think two current debates help to illustrate why I don't think this is an establishment issue (i.e. nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft, they're the safest pair of hand etc.) but the result of a decade of societal transformation by a government hellbent on furthering the interesting of their powerful, affluent friends.

Debate No. 1: New Labour insist on furthering the interest of bio-tech companies despite the overwhelming majority of the public being opposed to 'Frankenstein foods'. 

Debate No. 2: Not so long ago nuclear power was seen by government as dangerous and uneconomic. Renewable energy was in vogue, if only as an aspiration. Now nuclear power has been positioned as the only means by which society can fill the impending energy gap, despite numerous studies still showing it to be dangerous and uneconomic.

In both debates those in the ascendancy (bio-tech and energy companies) are reviled by the public at large. They certainly are not seen as the safest pair of hands with which to bet our collective futures. The public are very much aware of the inherent dangers associated with the technologies they sell. Why then does the UK government insist on promoting them? Because they have money and power, much of which finds its origin in the US. 

The same is true of Microsoft. Their technologies are a danger to the public good. Viruses, trojans, worms are almost exclusively a Microsoft problem. Exploitive licensing terms have actually robbed the public of their liberties. Why then has the UK government shaped public sector procurement to ensure Microsoft's dominance? Its not because they can be trusted, but because they have the power and the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think two current debates help to illustrate why I don&#8217;t think this is an establishment issue (i.e. nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft, they&#8217;re the safest pair of hand etc.) but the result of a decade of societal transformation by a government hellbent on furthering the interesting of their powerful, affluent friends.</p>
<p>Debate No. 1: New Labour insist on furthering the interest of bio-tech companies despite the overwhelming majority of the public being opposed to &#8216;Frankenstein foods&#8217;. </p>
<p>Debate No. 2: Not so long ago nuclear power was seen by government as dangerous and uneconomic. Renewable energy was in vogue, if only as an aspiration. Now nuclear power has been positioned as the only means by which society can fill the impending energy gap, despite numerous studies still showing it to be dangerous and uneconomic.</p>
<p>In both debates those in the ascendancy (bio-tech and energy companies) are reviled by the public at large. They certainly are not seen as the safest pair of hands with which to bet our collective futures. The public are very much aware of the inherent dangers associated with the technologies they sell. Why then does the UK government insist on promoting them? Because they have money and power, much of which finds its origin in the US. </p>
<p>The same is true of Microsoft. Their technologies are a danger to the public good. Viruses, trojans, worms are almost exclusively a Microsoft problem. Exploitive licensing terms have actually robbed the public of their liberties. Why then has the UK government shaped public sector procurement to ensure Microsoft&#8217;s dominance? Its not because they can be trusted, but because they have the power and the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrupt, Overpriced (by Billions), Broken, Falling behind the rest of the world.

Yup, money is God.

The definition of an MP is somebody with an unfeasibly large house for their salary.</description>
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<p>Yup, money is God.</p>
<p>The definition of an MP is somebody with an unfeasibly large house for their salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cole Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dogStar may be right, my UX experience was almost 10 years ago (so I've missed the transition to the Political Class).  One good/interestig thing, to be fair, is I had the impression too that Britain actually spawns a lot of heroic innovators. That is, lone individuals doing brilliant work.  It's curious that in the U.S., there's a big myth of individualism, while most things are actually the result of bureaucratic processes and large research and development teams.  The "lone hero" types seem more likely to pop up in the U.K. Where I suppose they often have their brilliance squashed by layers of mediocre managers.  I guess that happens here too.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dogStar may be right, my UX experience was almost 10 years ago (so I&#8217;ve missed the transition to the Political Class).  One good/interestig thing, to be fair, is I had the impression too that Britain actually spawns a lot of heroic innovators. That is, lone individuals doing brilliant work.  It&#8217;s curious that in the U.S., there&#8217;s a big myth of individualism, while most things are actually the result of bureaucratic processes and large research and development teams.  The &#8220;lone hero&#8221; types seem more likely to pop up in the U.K. Where I suppose they often have their brilliance squashed by layers of mediocre managers.  I guess that happens here too.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: JSmyth</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSmyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in local government and I would say that Cole's comment is not far off the money. The attitude is that no one will be sacked for buying Microsoft, just as it used to be with IBM. We will not even implement 3rd party system solutions in areas that Microsoft have no comparable products. The IT management within local authority are still making decisions based on how things worked years ago. They have no comprehension of the requirements for modern IT structures - hence why data disks are sent through the post and laptops full of confidential information are stolen. Microsoft does not have a solution to these problems therefore the solution doesn't exist.
This is the mindset of government IT managers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in local government and I would say that Cole&#8217;s comment is not far off the money. The attitude is that no one will be sacked for buying Microsoft, just as it used to be with IBM. We will not even implement 3rd party system solutions in areas that Microsoft have no comparable products. The IT management within local authority are still making decisions based on how things worked years ago. They have no comprehension of the requirements for modern IT structures - hence why data disks are sent through the post and laptops full of confidential information are stolen. Microsoft does not have a solution to these problems therefore the solution doesn&#8217;t exist.<br />
This is the mindset of government IT managers.</p>
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		<title>By: dogStar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-189949</link>
		<dc:creator>dogStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I could imagine that for a typical British manager (I’m going out on a limb here), getting completely in bed with Microsoft is implicitly becoming part of an established, well moneyed, respectable “class”."

Whilst I appreciate this sentiment it is an outdated British stereotype - tea, crumpets and cucumber sandwiches.

The 'Establishment' is in decline and has been replaced by what Peter Oborn calls the 'Political Class' (The Triumph of the Political Class, 2007). 

After 10 years of Blair, the emphasis is now less about aligning ones self with the established classes (i.e. the safest pair of hands) and more who's got the most money and power, and how can I restructure society to further their interests.

To my mind, the UK public sector's interaction with technology corporates reflects this more sinister sentiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I could imagine that for a typical British manager (I’m going out on a limb here), getting completely in bed with Microsoft is implicitly becoming part of an established, well moneyed, respectable “class”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whilst I appreciate this sentiment it is an outdated British stereotype - tea, crumpets and cucumber sandwiches.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Establishment&#8217; is in decline and has been replaced by what Peter Oborn calls the &#8216;Political Class&#8217; (The Triumph of the Political Class, 2007). </p>
<p>After 10 years of Blair, the emphasis is now less about aligning ones self with the established classes (i.e. the safest pair of hands) and more who&#8217;s got the most money and power, and how can I restructure society to further their interests.</p>
<p>To my mind, the UK public sector&#8217;s interaction with technology corporates reflects this more sinister sentiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole Thompson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-189735</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Californian who has worked in the U.K. and Germany, I had the impression that there was more of an urge in the U.K. to align oneself with established power.  In the U.S. there's a common saying "you can't find city hall", meaning that there's no use struggling against established power.  I think that sentiment is even stronger in Britain, and I am guessing it is another byproduct of a more class conscious society there.  Anyway, big proprietary software companies like Microsoft might be seen in this light as comforting bastions of money, power and predictability.  I could imagine that for a typical British manager (I'm going out on a limb here), getting completely in bed with Microsoft is implicitly becoming part of an established, well moneyed, respectable "class".  By extension one can then look down one's nose at the unwashed who are not part of the same class.  I could be all wrong about this, but those are my hunches, if it helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Californian who has worked in the U.K. and Germany, I had the impression that there was more of an urge in the U.K. to align oneself with established power.  In the U.S. there&#8217;s a common saying &#8220;you can&#8217;t find city hall&#8221;, meaning that there&#8217;s no use struggling against established power.  I think that sentiment is even stronger in Britain, and I am guessing it is another byproduct of a more class conscious society there.  Anyway, big proprietary software companies like Microsoft might be seen in this light as comforting bastions of money, power and predictability.  I could imagine that for a typical British manager (I&#8217;m going out on a limb here), getting completely in bed with Microsoft is implicitly becoming part of an established, well moneyed, respectable &#8220;class&#8221;.  By extension one can then look down one&#8217;s nose at the unwashed who are not part of the same class.  I could be all wrong about this, but those are my hunches, if it helps.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A sad state of affairs: open source in the UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeSoftNews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A sad state of affairs: open source in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-189451</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point, it was something of a negative rant, and it is important to also highlight the positive moves that are taking place despite the barriers in this country. Thanks for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point, it was something of a negative rant, and it is important to also highlight the positive moves that are taking place despite the barriers in this country. Thanks for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I got it...
I think we are in *full* agreement.
I very much like your point about JISC too.
FYI, we are doing a three-way conference between OSSWatch (now expanded to be responsible for JISC's entire Open Source policy), OSC and Red Hat in Oxford on 19th March.
We very much agree that everyone should know that not *all* news is bad. It is an unfortunate fact that it is *much* easier to get press coverage for the negative stuff than the positive however...

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I got it&#8230;<br />
I think we are in *full* agreement.<br />
I very much like your point about JISC too.<br />
FYI, we are doing a three-way conference between OSSWatch (now expanded to be responsible for JISC&#8217;s entire Open Source policy), OSC and Red Hat in Oxford on 19th March.<br />
We very much agree that everyone should know that not *all* news is bad. It is an unfortunate fact that it is *much* easier to get press coverage for the negative stuff than the positive however&#8230;</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Aberdour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Aberdour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the hideous state of procurement practices and that Moodle has become dominant *despite* Becta. The procurement frameworks absolutely need to change. I do remember seeing a parliamentary motion proposed by an MP to try to get the closed-shop Becta framework opened up, I am not sure what the status is of this. I also recently saw a Becta communication that signalled they may open up the framework but it fell far short of any concrete proposals or dates. 

However for all the procurement problems, I just don't buy that open source is in a sad state of affairs when it comes to education. The procurement barriers certainly are sad, and when they are changed the market wil open up tremendously. But my point really is that I think Education is a fantastic case study where Open Source has disrupted a market *despite* major barriers in its way. There is a groundswell of support for OS in the education community, and it's not just about Moodle - look at all the OS work being funded by JISC for example. Maybe not as high profile as Moodle but there is a major grass roots campaign taking place, growing strongly from the bottom up despite the major barriers to top-down procurement. 

I guess that I just see a lot of really good things going on in the educational OS community in this country. While there are problems as you describe, I don't think the orignal post gave a balanced view, there is loads of good work going on by OS developers and evangelists in the UK education community, and people need to know that the news is not all bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the hideous state of procurement practices and that Moodle has become dominant *despite* Becta. The procurement frameworks absolutely need to change. I do remember seeing a parliamentary motion proposed by an MP to try to get the closed-shop Becta framework opened up, I am not sure what the status is of this. I also recently saw a Becta communication that signalled they may open up the framework but it fell far short of any concrete proposals or dates. </p>
<p>However for all the procurement problems, I just don&#8217;t buy that open source is in a sad state of affairs when it comes to education. The procurement barriers certainly are sad, and when they are changed the market wil open up tremendously. But my point really is that I think Education is a fantastic case study where Open Source has disrupted a market *despite* major barriers in its way. There is a groundswell of support for OS in the education community, and it&#8217;s not just about Moodle - look at all the OS work being funded by JISC for example. Maybe not as high profile as Moodle but there is a major grass roots campaign taking place, growing strongly from the bottom up despite the major barriers to top-down procurement. </p>
<p>I guess that I just see a lot of really good things going on in the educational OS community in this country. While there are problems as you describe, I don&#8217;t think the orignal post gave a balanced view, there is loads of good work going on by OS developers and evangelists in the UK education community, and people need to know that the news is not all bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-188715</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. Education is still an excellent example.

You are entirely correct about Moodle, including the 56% figure from the superb OSSWatch. This does not negate our point however.

Moodle's outstanding success is *despite* BECTA - their closed-shop procurement frameworks do not specify a single Moodle vendor and even excludes Moodle itself. It is fine to buy a poor quality, bizarrely designed, semi-broken proprietary VLE from BECTA's good friends RM, but you can't, under the 'procurement guidelines', get the market leader!

The Moodle case illustrates *perfectly* just how far out of touch with reality BECTA are, and how unfair their guidelines are - it is the exception that proves the rule...

BECTA will, and do, claim that Schools, Grids for Learning and LAs are free to ignore the guidelines, but it is only in exceptional circumstances (like Moodle) that they will. We are also now seeing LAs procurement people *insisting* on organisations sticking to them! In an increasing number of cases this is leading to *existing* Open Source deployments being dismantled and support arrangements discontinued. All very good for lining the pockets of BECTA's proprietary friends, but extremely bad news for Open Source companies working in the Public Sector.

The net result is *exactly* what UK Government/Public Sector IT looks like -

Corrupt
Overpriced (by Billions)
Broken
Falling behind the rest of the world

With you and me, the taxpayers, paying for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Education is still an excellent example.</p>
<p>You are entirely correct about Moodle, including the 56% figure from the superb OSSWatch. This does not negate our point however.</p>
<p>Moodle&#8217;s outstanding success is *despite* BECTA - their closed-shop procurement frameworks do not specify a single Moodle vendor and even excludes Moodle itself. It is fine to buy a poor quality, bizarrely designed, semi-broken proprietary VLE from BECTA&#8217;s good friends RM, but you can&#8217;t, under the &#8216;procurement guidelines&#8217;, get the market leader!</p>
<p>The Moodle case illustrates *perfectly* just how far out of touch with reality BECTA are, and how unfair their guidelines are - it is the exception that proves the rule&#8230;</p>
<p>BECTA will, and do, claim that Schools, Grids for Learning and LAs are free to ignore the guidelines, but it is only in exceptional circumstances (like Moodle) that they will. We are also now seeing LAs procurement people *insisting* on organisations sticking to them! In an increasing number of cases this is leading to *existing* Open Source deployments being dismantled and support arrangements discontinued. All very good for lining the pockets of BECTA&#8217;s proprietary friends, but extremely bad news for Open Source companies working in the Public Sector.</p>
<p>The net result is *exactly* what UK Government/Public Sector IT looks like -</p>
<p>Corrupt<br />
Overpriced (by Billions)<br />
Broken<br />
Falling behind the rest of the world</p>
<p>With you and me, the taxpayers, paying for it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-188647</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insight Mark, you are right of course that schools can choose their own software if they wish, I should have mentioned that. You are also right about Moodle being an incredible success, but isn't it the exception rather than the rule? Would adoption of Moodle not be even higher if it were actually included in the framework agreement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight Mark, you are right of course that schools can choose their own software if they wish, I should have mentioned that. You are also right about Moodle being an incredible success, but isn&#8217;t it the exception rather than the rule? Would adoption of Moodle not be even higher if it were actually included in the framework agreement?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Aberdour</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-188631</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Aberdour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand that OSS adoption is held back in certain UK sectors but education is a bad example. SiriusIT describe Becta's procurement barrers correctly, however they fail to add that in some cases they have been circumvented and where this has happened, adoption of OSS in UK education is phenomenally successful.

One of the key targets in UK educational ICT has been set by the Dept for Education and Skills, which dictates that by 2010 every school should have a learning platform. There is a major software procurement rush taking place right now as evidenced by the buzz at recent BETT and Learning Technology shows in London. Becta have a set of approved proprietary suppliers for learning platforms, however schools can choose thir own if they wish, and many schools and local education authorites have done just that. And many have chosen the open source route with a learning platform called Moodle. BESA run an annual UK schools technology survey which shows that in 2007 Moodle became the NUMBER ONE learning platform in secondary schools ahead of established players like Kaleidos and Learning Gateway, and third ranking in primary schools, just behind Digital Brain and MyGrid4Learning. Back in 2006 BESA also found that Moodle was installed in a whopping 56% of UK Further Education institutions. The Open University, the UK's biggest distance learning platform by a long shot, migrated 180,000 students to a customised Moodle. Learndirect, a major government lifelong learning initiative, are also working on a customised Moodle. These numbers show that open source adoption in UK Education is hugely successful and that the learning platforms market has not only been disrupted by open source but that open source has overtaken the proprietary vendors to become THE dominant player. This is not a sad state of affairs, this is a world leading open source case study!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand that OSS adoption is held back in certain UK sectors but education is a bad example. SiriusIT describe Becta&#8217;s procurement barrers correctly, however they fail to add that in some cases they have been circumvented and where this has happened, adoption of OSS in UK education is phenomenally successful.</p>
<p>One of the key targets in UK educational ICT has been set by the Dept for Education and Skills, which dictates that by 2010 every school should have a learning platform. There is a major software procurement rush taking place right now as evidenced by the buzz at recent BETT and Learning Technology shows in London. Becta have a set of approved proprietary suppliers for learning platforms, however schools can choose thir own if they wish, and many schools and local education authorites have done just that. And many have chosen the open source route with a learning platform called Moodle. BESA run an annual UK schools technology survey which shows that in 2007 Moodle became the NUMBER ONE learning platform in secondary schools ahead of established players like Kaleidos and Learning Gateway, and third ranking in primary schools, just behind Digital Brain and MyGrid4Learning. Back in 2006 BESA also found that Moodle was installed in a whopping 56% of UK Further Education institutions. The Open University, the UK&#8217;s biggest distance learning platform by a long shot, migrated 180,000 students to a customised Moodle. Learndirect, a major government lifelong learning initiative, are also working on a customised Moodle. These numbers show that open source adoption in UK Education is hugely successful and that the learning platforms market has not only been disrupted by open source but that open source has overtaken the proprietary vendors to become THE dominant player. This is not a sad state of affairs, this is a world leading open source case study!</p>
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		<title>By: Education &#187; A sad state of affairs: open source in the UK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/02/13/a-sad-state-of-affairs-open-source-in-the-uk/#comment-188605</link>
		<dc:creator>Education &#187; A sad state of affairs: open source in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 451 CAOS Theory - A blog for the enterprise open source community wrote an interesting post today on A sad state of affairs: open source in the UKHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt I stated yesterday that open source had not been widely adopted in the UK without really backing the statement up. Fortunately SiriusIT, the UK-based open source services firm, has revamped its site with a blog entry explaining the situation with the example of open source adoption in the schools sector. “The ICT procurement framework for schools was introduced with the best of intentions. Becta, a Government quango, sought to bring structure to the school ICT sector… The events described had [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 451 CAOS Theory - A blog for the enterprise open source community wrote an interesting post today on A sad state of affairs: open source in the UKHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt I stated yesterday that open source had not been widely adopted in the UK without really backing the statement up. Fortunately SiriusIT, the UK-based open source services firm, has revamped its site with a blog entry explaining the situation with the example of open source adoption in the schools sector. “The ICT procurement framework for schools was introduced with the best of intentions. Becta, a Government quango, sought to bring structure to the school ICT sector… The events described had [...]</p>
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