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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-241214</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Linux is best for any &lt;a href="http://www.couponalbum.com/category/computer-software.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;computers&lt;/a&gt; and it works great!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, Linux is best for any <a href="http://www.couponalbum.com/category/computer-software.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.couponalbum.com');">computers</a> and it works great!!</p>
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		<title>By: IT Linux Consultant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-240889</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Linux Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummm well!!!!!!!!!!! I really really really don't think Could Computing is good and also i really don't think Linux should be oconnected to Cloud Computing.
Why you ask?

Well!!!! lets check out the Faults or should a Evil Cloud Computing can do.

1.) if linux is connected to Cloud Computing then there will be no mastake that linux will be controlled meaning that when connected to the Cloud you depend apon the Cloud and those who OWN THE CLOUD COMPUTING ie. IBM , Microsoft &#38; Google will say hummm hey people if you want to use your computer today to get on the internet you will have to use Cloud Computer.Well that in it's self conrodicts Freedom of use to the person using there Computer don't you THINK.

2.) Cloud Computing is a WAY to get everyone connected to a Network to controlle the people and the way they use there own Computers.Anther word for Cloud computing is CALLED  " THE GRID " which will be on the new Internet2 , IPv6

Have a Good day and do remember hat the longer you stay asleep the more rights are taking away from you People!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummm well!!!!!!!!!!! I really really really don&#8217;t think Could Computing is good and also i really don&#8217;t think Linux should be oconnected to Cloud Computing.<br />
Why you ask?</p>
<p>Well!!!! lets check out the Faults or should a Evil Cloud Computing can do.</p>
<p>1.) if linux is connected to Cloud Computing then there will be no mastake that linux will be controlled meaning that when connected to the Cloud you depend apon the Cloud and those who OWN THE CLOUD COMPUTING ie. IBM , Microsoft &amp; Google will say hummm hey people if you want to use your computer today to get on the internet you will have to use Cloud Computer.Well that in it&#8217;s self conrodicts Freedom of use to the person using there Computer don&#8217;t you THINK.</p>
<p>2.) Cloud Computing is a WAY to get everyone connected to a Network to controlle the people and the way they use there own Computers.Anther word for Cloud computing is CALLED  &#8221; THE GRID &#8221; which will be on the new Internet2 , IPv6</p>
<p>Have a Good day and do remember hat the longer you stay asleep the more rights are taking away from you People!</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Xandros buys Linspire in not so open source deal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-238056</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Xandros buys Linspire in not so open source deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] source table by acquiring cards such as Scalix and Linspire, it may have a wild card in the form of netbooks, many of which run Xandros OS, email and other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Netbooks, MIDs, whatever - it&#8217;s about lower cost Linux</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-222479</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Netbooks, MIDs, whatever - it&#8217;s about lower cost Linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the AP, Intel chief Paul Otellini says MIDs favor Linux. I&#8217;ve written previously about the opportunities for Linux in the growing device category ranging from these MIDs to &#8217;subnotebooks,&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the AP, Intel chief Paul Otellini says MIDs favor Linux. I&#8217;ve written previously about the opportunities for Linux in the growing device category ranging from these MIDs to &#8217;subnotebooks,&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; VIA&#8217;s unfortuante open source deja vu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-220430</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; VIA&#8217;s unfortuante open source deja vu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a Linux following over the years and may be among those with the most to gain from Linux success in new form factors, such as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219302</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 05:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is missing the point.   MS offering is limited.  Linux is not.  Now its only going to get worse.  Linux has a very low price point.  MS is being forced to come down and match.  If I was a Microsoft share holder I would be really worried.  Linux is not just going to disappear.  It could purely block MS from being able to increase prices in the future.

Also MS has completely screwed up.  Removing touch screen support not a wise move.  What is next Linux low end table pc's.  Windows forced to lower that market too.

Thing Windows is not being sold as a upgrade.  Its really being sold as the second rate machine.  Linux runs faster given better hardware costs more.   Company must think they can move Linux more than windows.

It gets worse Linux Users can buy the Windows machine and return the OS for a refund.  Now what refund to we get.  The one with or without the MS 10 dollar discount.  Now why would a person be returning MS Windows.  Simple MS home cannot connect to a business network.  Next error of Microsoft thinking that these cheep machines don't have a business use.

Final nail screen size limiting.  So what are they going to do when adult size cheep machine are in the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is missing the point.   MS offering is limited.  Linux is not.  Now its only going to get worse.  Linux has a very low price point.  MS is being forced to come down and match.  If I was a Microsoft share holder I would be really worried.  Linux is not just going to disappear.  It could purely block MS from being able to increase prices in the future.</p>
<p>Also MS has completely screwed up.  Removing touch screen support not a wise move.  What is next Linux low end table pc&#8217;s.  Windows forced to lower that market too.</p>
<p>Thing Windows is not being sold as a upgrade.  Its really being sold as the second rate machine.  Linux runs faster given better hardware costs more.   Company must think they can move Linux more than windows.</p>
<p>It gets worse Linux Users can buy the Windows machine and return the OS for a refund.  Now what refund to we get.  The one with or without the MS 10 dollar discount.  Now why would a person be returning MS Windows.  Simple MS home cannot connect to a business network.  Next error of Microsoft thinking that these cheep machines don&#8217;t have a business use.</p>
<p>Final nail screen size limiting.  So what are they going to do when adult size cheep machine are in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219258</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that XP will sell in these low powered machines? I might at the beginning, but just wait until those machines get bogged down with all of the virus checking and other overhead add-ons that you have to have in order to have a secure portable machine and things will start to shift favorably to linux. This shift will happen even faster when two users sit side by side and one observes "Yours seems so much faster than mine". The other says, "Yeah, I got the Linux version"

The rest is history...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that XP will sell in these low powered machines? I might at the beginning, but just wait until those machines get bogged down with all of the virus checking and other overhead add-ons that you have to have in order to have a secure portable machine and things will start to shift favorably to linux. This shift will happen even faster when two users sit side by side and one observes &#8220;Yours seems so much faster than mine&#8221;. The other says, &#8220;Yeah, I got the Linux version&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest is history&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rankxerox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219230</link>
		<dc:creator>Rankxerox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XP slower on those machines.. sure but on those integrated graphic chipsets you can, on Windows, offload work from main processor to decode video. So how can compete Linux when even the makers of that hardware discriminate Linux users.
And I think they won't support it if they are not forced to do, so let's look a legal way to not let play them the linux wave fanfare and do some work to respect linux customers like me, on the other hand, Linux (Xorg , I mean) definitively must Standard on a unique global way to interoperate to succes,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XP slower on those machines.. sure but on those integrated graphic chipsets you can, on Windows, offload work from main processor to decode video. So how can compete Linux when even the makers of that hardware discriminate Linux users.<br />
And I think they won&#8217;t support it if they are not forced to do, so let&#8217;s look a legal way to not let play them the linux wave fanfare and do some work to respect linux customers like me, on the other hand, Linux (Xorg , I mean) definitively must Standard on a unique global way to interoperate to succes,</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lyman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219223</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 07:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad for the Windows user, who gets a slower machine with less memory. Don't worry about Linux. It will be OK.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad for the Windows user, who gets a slower machine with less memory. Don&#8217;t worry about Linux. It will be OK.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Lechecul</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219213</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Lechecul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How old is XP exactly? 
7-8 years old?
Why not put on Win 2000?

Notice says progress than running an 8 year old OS and its STILL too slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How old is XP exactly?<br />
7-8 years old?<br />
Why not put on Win 2000?</p>
<p>Notice says progress than running an 8 year old OS and its STILL too slow.</p>
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		<title>By: linux</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219211</link>
		<dc:creator>linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; Linux is now the one to beat in a desktop market.

Huh ? How did you come up with this ? Linux will never be able to beat Windows. Windows, however sucky it is, has already dominated the market. Though XP EEE has lower storage, ppl will still buy this and the Linux version won't sell. I'm pretty sure of this. Too bad for Linux :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Linux is now the one to beat in a desktop market.</p>
<p>Huh ? How did you come up with this ? Linux will never be able to beat Windows. Windows, however sucky it is, has already dominated the market. Though XP EEE has lower storage, ppl will still buy this and the Linux version won&#8217;t sell. I&#8217;m pretty sure of this. Too bad for Linux <img src='http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lyman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219209</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Sarah,

Sure it doesn't help Linux that XP is available in stores, but as I explain in a &lt;a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/13/wal-mart-didnt-murder-linux/" rel="nofollow"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;, PC buying habits are changing and more online shopping is good for Linux because that's where it's available. Glad you're still hoping ...

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Sarah,</p>
<p>Sure it doesn&#8217;t help Linux that XP is available in stores, but as I explain in a <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/13/wal-mart-didnt-murder-linux/" rel="nofollow" >previous post</a>, PC buying habits are changing and more online shopping is good for Linux because that&#8217;s where it&#8217;s available. Glad you&#8217;re still hoping &#8230;</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219206</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see Linux win, but when you consider that it's the XP EEE's that are for sale in the shops... 
Still here's hoping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see Linux win, but when you consider that it&#8217;s the XP EEE&#8217;s that are for sale in the shops&#8230;<br />
Still here&#8217;s hoping.</p>
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		<title>By: ArtInvent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/05/07/linux-facing-first-real-desktop-test/#comment-219159</link>
		<dc:creator>ArtInvent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One important consideration: Linux is now competing in a new market without a built-in 95% Windows dominance. Make no mistake, there will be substantial demand for XP on these machines and MS will compete well in this segment. BUT - even if Linux only succeeds in holding 30% to 40% market share in the mini-note category, that is a huge leap in market presence. Huge. It puts Linux on pretty much an even footing with MS and leaps past Apple to become a major player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One important consideration: Linux is now competing in a new market without a built-in 95% Windows dominance. Make no mistake, there will be substantial demand for XP on these machines and MS will compete well in this segment. BUT - even if Linux only succeeds in holding 30% to 40% market share in the mini-note category, that is a huge leap in market presence. Huge. It puts Linux on pretty much an even footing with MS and leaps past Apple to become a major player.</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 08/05/2008: New KDE4 Release, Music Players Assumed a Crime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 08/05/2008: New KDE4 Release, Music Players Assumed a Crime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Linux facing first real desktop test [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linux facing first real desktop test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linux facing first real desktop test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Linux.com Admin wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptThere are even concerns that Linux in the EeePC ultra-portable computers — or indeed Linux in the larger subnotebook, mini-notebook or whatever you want to call this emerging category — is now likely to evaporate in the face of Windows &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Linux.com Admin wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptThere are even concerns that Linux in the EeePC ultra-portable computers — or indeed Linux in the larger subnotebook, mini-notebook or whatever you want to call this emerging category — is now likely to evaporate in the face of Windows &#8230; [...]</p>
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