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	<title>Comments on: Hell freezes over &#8211; Matt Asay on the problem of open source revenue models</title>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; What is Open Core Licensing (and what isn&#8217;t)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-434771</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; What is Open Core Licensing (and what isn&#8217;t)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] partly responsible for the increased use of the term Open Core, and since I remembered that it was this post about commercial open source strategies that prompted Andrew to define Open Core in the first [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] partly responsible for the increased use of the term Open Core, and since I remembered that it was this post about commercial open source strategies that prompted Andrew to define Open Core in the first [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Microsoft promise split the open source movement &#124; Open Source Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Microsoft promise split the open source movement &#124; Open Source Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it is, then Microsoft may be embraced as an &#8220;open core&#8221; vendor like other enterprise open source [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it is, then Microsoft may be embraced as an &#8220;open core&#8221; vendor like other enterprise open source [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Source mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-434298</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] should be accepted as a standard part of Linux. If it is, then Microsoft may be embraced as an &quot;open core&quot; vendor like other enterprise open source companies. If Stallman and the FSF stay outside the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] should be accepted as a standard part of Linux. If it is, then Microsoft may be embraced as an &#8220;open core&#8221; vendor like other enterprise open source companies. If Stallman and the FSF stay outside the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Managing expectations with Open-Core Licensing</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-276407</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Managing expectations with Open-Core Licensing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with Open-Core Licensing Matthew Aslett, September 10, 2008 @ 9:27 am ET  Matt Asay has continued his public conversion to the merits of proprietary extensions/value-add services with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with Open-Core Licensing Matthew Aslett, September 10, 2008 @ 9:27 am ET  Matt Asay has continued his public conversion to the merits of proprietary extensions/value-add services with the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-272850</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the blogosphere. Nice first post. The model you refer to has also been referred to (not widely, although I use it in a forthcoming report) as Split Licensing (to differentiate from Dual Licensing). I&#039;ll follow up with more discussion later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the blogosphere. Nice first post. The model you refer to has also been referred to (not widely, although I use it in a forthcoming report) as Split Licensing (to differentiate from Dual Licensing). I&#8217;ll follow up with more discussion later.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lampitt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-272149</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Lampitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started typing a response, and then it got too long. You prompted me to finally start a blog: http://alampitt.typepad.com/lampitt_or_leave_it/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started typing a response, and then it got too long. You prompted me to finally start a blog: <a href="http://alampitt.typepad.com/lampitt_or_leave_it/" rel="nofollow">http://alampitt.typepad.com/lampitt_or_leave_it/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-271724</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Dennis. SaaS would appear to be a potential answer to the problem, although it doesn&#039;t solve the issue Dennis Howlett identified about customers wanting to be treated as individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Dennis. SaaS would appear to be a potential answer to the problem, although it doesn&#8217;t solve the issue Dennis Howlett identified about customers wanting to be treated as individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Byron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-271603</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Matthew, it&#039;s called SaaS these days.  Used to be called Application Service Provider and before that--way before that--a service bureau.  

About a quarter trillion dollars a year are now spent on software sold in the market (as opposed to written inhouse). It is paid for via license fees, maintenance subscriptions (be they for software whose source is open or otherwise), advertising support to the software developer, business service fees where the software is bundled in the service, and so forth.  Only a fraction of that is license fees and only a fraction of those license fees relate to new business. Most license fee revenues are for upgrades, new users, etc. Actually the license fee business model is a relatively new method; only about 30 years old.

Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Matthew, it&#8217;s called SaaS these days.  Used to be called Application Service Provider and before that&#8211;way before that&#8211;a service bureau.  </p>
<p>About a quarter trillion dollars a year are now spent on software sold in the market (as opposed to written inhouse). It is paid for via license fees, maintenance subscriptions (be they for software whose source is open or otherwise), advertising support to the software developer, business service fees where the software is bundled in the service, and so forth.  Only a fraction of that is license fees and only a fraction of those license fees relate to new business. Most license fee revenues are for upgrades, new users, etc. Actually the license fee business model is a relatively new method; only about 30 years old.</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: tweetSMS is back! : ultimate geek girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tweetSMS is back! : ultimate geek girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hell freezes over - Matt Asay on the problem of open source &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hell freezes over - Matt Asay on the problem of open source &#8230; : thegameoflove</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/08/28/hell-freezes-over-matt-asay-on-the-problem-of-open-source-revenue-models/comment-page-1/#comment-271601</link>
		<dc:creator>Hell freezes over - Matt Asay on the problem of open source &#8230; : thegameoflove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by Matthew Aslett [...]</description>
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