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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Open source evolving with the cloud</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-525652</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Open source evolving with the cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] source evolving with the cloud Jay Lyman, February 11, 2010 @ 2:43 am ET  We&#8217;ve covered the significance of open source software in cloud computing, both with the emergence of cloud models and more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] source evolving with the cloud Jay Lyman, February 11, 2010 @ 2:43 am ET  We&#8217;ve covered the significance of open source software in cloud computing, both with the emergence of cloud models and more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Support keeps coming for community open source</title>
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		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Support keeps coming for community open source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Linux distributions. Part of the trend of community Linux in the cloud, vendors such as rPath, RightScale and Convirture have incorporated CentOS and Ubuntu into their software and support, for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Linux distributions. Part of the trend of community Linux in the cloud, vendors such as rPath, RightScale and Convirture have incorporated CentOS and Ubuntu into their software and support, for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Red Hat cloud program needs partners, punctuation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-434686</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Red Hat cloud program needs partners, punctuation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] management of enterprise clouds, particularly internal clouds. RightScale, for example, recently switched from using, for its cloud management software, Red Hat clone CentOS to Ubuntu based on customer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] management of enterprise clouds, particularly internal clouds. RightScale, for example, recently switched from using, for its cloud management software, Red Hat clone CentOS to Ubuntu based on customer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Some interesting firsts for cloud OS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-409046</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Some interesting firsts for cloud OS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] parts and so on. We&#8217;re now seeing a similar battle in cloud computing, where open source looms large, as other vendors step up to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] parts and so on. We&#8217;re now seeing a similar battle in cloud computing, where open source looms large, as other vendors step up to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: linkfeedr &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some interesting firsts for cloud OS - RSS Indexer (beta)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-401813</link>
		<dc:creator>linkfeedr &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some interesting firsts for cloud OS - RSS Indexer (beta)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] parts and so on. We&#8217;re now seeing a similar battle in cloud computing, where open source looms large, as other vendors step up to the opportunities. VMware&#8217;s announcement of vSphere, billed as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] parts and so on. We&#8217;re now seeing a similar battle in cloud computing, where open source looms large, as other vendors step up to the opportunities. VMware&#8217;s announcement of vSphere, billed as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lyman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-384679</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point, botchagalupe,

We do note in our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the451group.com/report_view/report_view.php?entity_id=57358&amp;sm=WW91IGhhdmUgc3VjY2Vzc2Z1bGx5IGxvZ2dlZCBpbi4=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;report&lt;/a&gt;, Cittio has had its difficulties dealing with open source, the OpenNMS project in particular. However, the company seems to have the right expectations in its Project Zeppelin, which is licensed under the LGPL. Thanks,

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point, botchagalupe,</p>
<p>We do note in our <a href="http://www.the451group.com/report_view/report_view.php?entity_id=57358&#038;sm=WW91IGhhdmUgc3VjY2Vzc2Z1bGx5IGxvZ2dlZCBpbi4=" rel="nofollow">report</a>, Cittio has had its difficulties dealing with open source, the OpenNMS project in particular. However, the company seems to have the right expectations in its Project Zeppelin, which is licensed under the LGPL. Thanks,</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: botchagalupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>botchagalupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, any reference to Cittio should have an asterisk beside it when it comes to &quot;Open Source&quot;.  You guys, above all, should know this already...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tr.im/hklT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Play Fair or go Home&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, any reference to Cittio should have an asterisk beside it when it comes to &#8220;Open Source&#8221;.  You guys, above all, should know this already&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tr.im/hklT" rel="nofollow">Play Fair or go Home</a></p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds &#124; MoVa Media Co, Ltd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-384003</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds &#124; MoVa Media Co, Ltd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An open source blog by The 451 Group. &#8230; With its release of the Sun Cloud aimed at ‘developers, students and startups,’ Sun is relying on several open source components such as Java, MySQL, OpenSolaris and Open Storage. &#8230; Read More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An open source blog by The 451 Group. &#8230; With its release of the Sun Cloud aimed at ‘developers, students and startups,’ Sun is relying on several open source components such as Java, MySQL, OpenSolaris and Open Storage. &#8230; Read More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds&#160;&#124;&#160;Open Hacking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-383759</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds&#160;&#124;&#160;Open Hacking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more from the original source:  451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds    This entry was posted on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am and is filed under Linux, News, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more from the original source:  451 CAOS Theory » Linux and open source no puff in the clouds    This entry was posted on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am and is filed under Linux, News, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lyman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-383614</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for adding some additional thoughts Thorsten. I updated the post after our talk, but am glad to see you reinforcing it.Good point about the ability to experiment with different models and offerings -- this is key to building successful revenue streams based on open source software and based on cloud computing. Thanks again.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for adding some additional thoughts Thorsten. I updated the post after our talk, but am glad to see you reinforcing it.Good point about the ability to experiment with different models and offerings &#8212; this is key to building successful revenue streams based on open source software and based on cloud computing. Thanks again.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Thorsten, CTO RightScale</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-383604</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorsten, CTO RightScale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I would fully concur with you that open source is not just &quot;more than mere mist&quot; in the cloud, it is *powering the cloud*! A large part of the attraction of the cloud is the low barrier to entry and that goes hand-in-hand with open source. You can test something out real quick and cheap using open source and the cloud. The traditional per-cpu and/or per-year licensing models make it much more difficult. Also, it&#039;s looking much easier for companies that provide services or upgrades around open source software to figure out how to craft cloud offering. If you have a per-server annual license model it&#039;s much harder to experiment with on-demand pricing in the cloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I would fully concur with you that open source is not just &#8220;more than mere mist&#8221; in the cloud, it is *powering the cloud*! A large part of the attraction of the cloud is the low barrier to entry and that goes hand-in-hand with open source. You can test something out real quick and cheap using open source and the cloud. The traditional per-cpu and/or per-year licensing models make it much more difficult. Also, it&#8217;s looking much easier for companies that provide services or upgrades around open source software to figure out how to craft cloud offering. If you have a per-server annual license model it&#8217;s much harder to experiment with on-demand pricing in the cloud.</p>
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