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	<title>Comments on: The Open Source Initiative&#8217;s corporate status is suspended: a CAOS Theory Q&amp;A</title>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Is it time to rethink the open source license approval process?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-531384</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Is it time to rethink the open source license approval process?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agree with him that it retains an important role in the open source ecosystem (which is why we were concerned by its recent organisational problems) but would argue that the process of license approval needs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] agree with him that it retains an important role in the open source ecosystem (which is why we were concerned by its recent organisational problems) but would argue that the process of license approval needs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Nelson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-528249</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our status has been restored to &quot;Active&quot;, per the California State website.  The link you have is bad; for some reason they broke the ability to link directly in with an entity number.  Just search and you&#039;ll see the current satus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our status has been restored to &#8220;Active&#8221;, per the California State website.  The link you have is bad; for some reason they broke the ability to link directly in with an entity number.  Just search and you&#8217;ll see the current satus.</p>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; CAOS Theory&#8217;s most popular posts of 2009</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-507123</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; CAOS Theory&#8217;s most popular posts of 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Open Source Initiative’s corporate status is suspended: a CAOS Theory Q&amp;A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-479950</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am not a lawyer, obviously, but my understanding is that if a company registered in California continues to operate while its corporate status is suspended in California it is in breach in California state law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am not a lawyer, obviously, but my understanding is that if a company registered in California continues to operate while its corporate status is suspended in California it is in breach in California state law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Coar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-479726</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Coar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;m being simplistic, but it seems to me that our &#039;business as usual&#039; can continue elsewhere.  The restriction is on doing business in California; we have people all over the planet.  Since &lt;i&gt;they&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; not in California, are they enjoined to not pursue the OSI&#039;s interests in their own regions?  I suspect not.

As Michael pointed out, the OSI is not your father&#039;s style of corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m being simplistic, but it seems to me that our &#8216;business as usual&#8217; can continue elsewhere.  The restriction is on doing business in California; we have people all over the planet.  Since <i>they&#8217;re</i> not in California, are they enjoined to not pursue the OSI&#8217;s interests in their own regions?  I suspect not.</p>
<p>As Michael pointed out, the OSI is not your father&#8217;s style of corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-477871</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Russell,

I noticed that the OSI continues to describe itself as &quot;a California public benefit corporation&quot; and solicit donations and therefore continues to conduct business as a corporation in California, despite the suspension.

Perhaps I misunderstood the meaning of the term &quot;The business loses its rights, powers, and privileges to conduct business in California&quot;. If you have any insight into how the OSI can continue to operate &quot;business us usual&quot; without being in breach of California state law, I would be happy to update the Q&amp;A accordingly.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Russell,</p>
<p>I noticed that the OSI continues to describe itself as &#8220;a California public benefit corporation&#8221; and solicit donations and therefore continues to conduct business as a corporation in California, despite the suspension.</p>
<p>Perhaps I misunderstood the meaning of the term &#8220;The business loses its rights, powers, and privileges to conduct business in California&#8221;. If you have any insight into how the OSI can continue to operate &#8220;business us usual&#8221; without being in breach of California state law, I would be happy to update the Q&#038;A accordingly.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Nelson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-477777</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, I am puzzled by your comment &quot;[OSI] cannot function properly.&quot;  Yes, our corporate status is suspended, but we operated without being a corporation just fine for the first few years of our existance as an unincorporated organization.  Business as usual, life goes on, nothing to see here, move along, no worries mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, I am puzzled by your comment &#8220;[OSI] cannot function properly.&#8221;  Yes, our corporate status is suspended, but we operated without being a corporation just fine for the first few years of our existance as an unincorporated organization.  Business as usual, life goes on, nothing to see here, move along, no worries mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Lord</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-477314</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see my comment, below.   I was the instigator of a complaint to the CA state attorney general about OSI that I suspect but can not be certain led to the suspension.  Mr. Nelson is not kidding when he says the problem was long in the making - per public records OSI was deliquent but several years in their filing of federal tax forms required of a 503(c).  Years.

-t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see my comment, below.   I was the instigator of a complaint to the CA state attorney general about OSI that I suspect but can not be certain led to the suspension.  Mr. Nelson is not kidding when he says the problem was long in the making &#8211; per public records OSI was deliquent but several years in their filing of federal tax forms required of a 503(c).  Years.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Lord</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-477287</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Thomas Lord here.

I can not be certain but I suspect that the OSI was suspended quite a few months ago and in response to a complaint that I filed with the state attorney general office.

I had had an unpleasant interaction with the OSI - one that startled me and offended me.  I thought to look deeper into the organization and in particular to examine its sources of funding and its use of funds.  With the help of a couple of &quot;internet friends&quot; on Bruce Perens&#039; former blog, &quot;technocrat&quot;, I discovered that OSI had (per the public record, at least) failed to file federal tax forms (form 990) for several years running.  I also noticed what seemed to my amateur eyes like oddities in how they had spent money, at least as far as one could tell from published board meeting minutes.  I also noticed what to my eyes were some inappropriate comments on the board&#039;s blog. I reported these facts to the state A.G. office.  Not much later, OSI became a suspended corporation.

Per (wise) policy the A.G. office will not discuss matters with me unless I want to add to my complaint - they protect the &quot;innocent until proved guilty&quot;.  Bless them.

And I wish to be very clear that, although it seems the several years of missing tax forms is not in dispute, my additional suspicions about how they spent their money are purely speculation and should not be taken as anything more than part of my own personal motivation for talking to the A.G.  Nobody should assume based only my word that OSI has done anything more wrong than missing a few filing deadlines.  Clear?

As far as I can tell, the OSI board has several really wonderful, proactive, smart, social benefit do-gooders.   I do not wish to impugn the board or the organization.  Yes, I do have some strong differences with a couple of the board members.  Yes, I do have some suspicions about their history as a fiduciary - but for now that&#039;s between me, the A.G. office, and OSI.  It&#039;s not something I want other people to start believing only because &quot;Tom says....&quot;.

Regards,
-t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Thomas Lord here.</p>
<p>I can not be certain but I suspect that the OSI was suspended quite a few months ago and in response to a complaint that I filed with the state attorney general office.</p>
<p>I had had an unpleasant interaction with the OSI &#8211; one that startled me and offended me.  I thought to look deeper into the organization and in particular to examine its sources of funding and its use of funds.  With the help of a couple of &#8220;internet friends&#8221; on Bruce Perens&#8217; former blog, &#8220;technocrat&#8221;, I discovered that OSI had (per the public record, at least) failed to file federal tax forms (form 990) for several years running.  I also noticed what seemed to my amateur eyes like oddities in how they had spent money, at least as far as one could tell from published board meeting minutes.  I also noticed what to my eyes were some inappropriate comments on the board&#8217;s blog. I reported these facts to the state A.G. office.  Not much later, OSI became a suspended corporation.</p>
<p>Per (wise) policy the A.G. office will not discuss matters with me unless I want to add to my complaint &#8211; they protect the &#8220;innocent until proved guilty&#8221;.  Bless them.</p>
<p>And I wish to be very clear that, although it seems the several years of missing tax forms is not in dispute, my additional suspicions about how they spent their money are purely speculation and should not be taken as anything more than part of my own personal motivation for talking to the A.G.  Nobody should assume based only my word that OSI has done anything more wrong than missing a few filing deadlines.  Clear?</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, the OSI board has several really wonderful, proactive, smart, social benefit do-gooders.   I do not wish to impugn the board or the organization.  Yes, I do have some strong differences with a couple of the board members.  Yes, I do have some suspicions about their history as a fiduciary &#8211; but for now that&#8217;s between me, the A.G. office, and OSI.  It&#8217;s not something I want other people to start believing only because &#8220;Tom says&#8230;.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
-t</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Friesenhahn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-477179</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Friesenhahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what way as &quot;open source&quot; invented in 1998?  This statement is confusing to me since the term has been in active use since at least the early &#039;80s, and possibly since the &#039;70s when Ken Thompson started cutting and mailing out the first Unix source tapes in 1973.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what way as &#8220;open source&#8221; invented in 1998?  This statement is confusing to me since the term has been in active use since at least the early &#8217;80s, and possibly since the &#8217;70s when Ken Thompson started cutting and mailing out the first Unix source tapes in 1973.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: enriqueotero</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476606</link>
		<dc:creator>enriqueotero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...</description>
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		<title>By: Ziņas no medijiem &#187; Bezpeļņas organizācija Open Source Initiative (OSI) zaudējusi juridisko statusu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476579</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziņas no medijiem &#187; Bezpeļņas organizācija Open Source Initiative (OSI) zaudējusi juridisko statusu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ar kompānijas 451 Group ziņojumu, Kalifornijas štata varas iestādes apturējušas juridiskā statusa spēkā esamību bezpeļņas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ar kompānijas 451 Group ziņojumu, Kalifornijas štata varas iestādes apturējušas juridiskā statusa spēkā esamību bezpeļņas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open News &#124; Bezpeļņas organizācija Open Source Initiative (OSI) zaudējusi juridisko statusu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476564</link>
		<dc:creator>Open News &#124; Bezpeļņas organizācija Open Source Initiative (OSI) zaudējusi juridisko statusu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ar kompānijas 451 Group ziņojumu, Kalifornijas štata varas iestādes apturējušas juridiskā statusa spēkā esamību bezpeļņas [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476552</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Russell,

Thanks for your comment. We appreciate that this is not a simple situation and would agree that in many ways &quot;open source&quot; is no more or less protected legally than it was before, however the OSI does hold significant influence given the respect in which it is held, so it is the detriment of everyone that it cannot function properly. Here&#039;s hoping for a swift resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Russell,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. We appreciate that this is not a simple situation and would agree that in many ways &#8220;open source&#8221; is no more or less protected legally than it was before, however the OSI does hold significant influence given the respect in which it is held, so it is the detriment of everyone that it cannot function properly. Here&#8217;s hoping for a swift resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Open Source Initiative loses corporate status &#124; Full-Linux.com</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476551</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source Initiative loses corporate status &#124; Full-Linux.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 451 Group reports that the Open Source Initiative failed to get its paperwork together in time, so the corporation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Aslett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476550</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Aslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted above, even though the information was already public, we contacted the OSI&#039;s general counsel and president before publishing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted above, even though the information was already public, we contacted the OSI&#8217;s general counsel and president before publishing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Nelson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476523</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a problem which has been long in the making, and will take some time to resolve.  In the meantime, &quot;Open Source&quot; is not in any jepoardy.  If someone proffers software which claims to be Open Source, but which does not comply with the industry standard definition (our definition), you can sue them for fraud (they&#039;re trying to make money by misrepresenting the quality of something).  Where we are enjoined is in *our* enforcement of the OSI Approved trademark.  That is a problem we have been working on rectifying for some months now.  It wasn&#039;t a simple problem to create and it&#039;s not a simple problem to solve.  We&#039;re working on ti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a problem which has been long in the making, and will take some time to resolve.  In the meantime, &#8220;Open Source&#8221; is not in any jepoardy.  If someone proffers software which claims to be Open Source, but which does not comply with the industry standard definition (our definition), you can sue them for fraud (they&#8217;re trying to make money by misrepresenting the quality of something).  Where we are enjoined is in *our* enforcement of the OSI Approved trademark.  That is a problem we have been working on rectifying for some months now.  It wasn&#8217;t a simple problem to create and it&#8217;s not a simple problem to solve.  We&#8217;re working on ti.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully someone notified them about this before making this public.  They are not the first or last company to fail to submit an SOI. As long as they get it in ASAP they&#039;ll be back in business. A quick call to their board would likely have been sufficient to get this resolved.  Hopefully someone has contacted their Secretary or CEO/President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully someone notified them about this before making this public.  They are not the first or last company to fail to submit an SOI. As long as they get it in ASAP they&#8217;ll be back in business. A quick call to their board would likely have been sufficient to get this resolved.  Hopefully someone has contacted their Secretary or CEO/President.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuable Internet Information &#187; 451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476473</link>
		<dc:creator>Valuable Internet Information &#187; 451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See the rest here:  451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#039;s corporate status is &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Terrell Prude' Jr.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476441</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Prude' Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not exactly happy to see this, of course.  But really, the concept of &quot;open source&quot; always missed the point anyway.  The real point is the freedom that Free Software has always given its users.

Perhaps it&#039;s time for the &quot;open sourcers&quot; to start focusing more on the freedom that made what they do (did?) possible.  That would be a good thing if they did that.  This is the real selling point of Free Software--because in the arena of Freedom, the Microsofts of the world can&#039;t even compete at all, no matter how &quot;open&quot; they pretend to be when it&#039;s convenient for them.  One example is that MS-PL license that apparently meets &quot;open source&quot; standards, but it sure ain&#039;t Free Software.  GNU/Linux was scaring the daylights out of Microsoft long before the term &quot;open source&quot; got invented (Halloween Documents went public in 1997, a year before &quot;open source&quot;).

Oh, but what about &quot;alienating&quot; business?  Puh-leeze.  Too many companies are making too much money with Free Software (e. g. Red Hat).  It comes down to actually having a decent business plan, and if you don&#039;t have one, you&#039;re going to be toast no matter what field you&#039;re in.  On the contrary to alienation, Free Software is a very good way to help *save* your business, because of its overall cost-effectiveness.

--TP</description>
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<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s time for the &#8220;open sourcers&#8221; to start focusing more on the freedom that made what they do (did?) possible.  That would be a good thing if they did that.  This is the real selling point of Free Software&#8211;because in the arena of Freedom, the Microsofts of the world can&#8217;t even compete at all, no matter how &#8220;open&#8221; they pretend to be when it&#8217;s convenient for them.  One example is that MS-PL license that apparently meets &#8220;open source&#8221; standards, but it sure ain&#8217;t Free Software.  GNU/Linux was scaring the daylights out of Microsoft long before the term &#8220;open source&#8221; got invented (Halloween Documents went public in 1997, a year before &#8220;open source&#8221;).</p>
<p>Oh, but what about &#8220;alienating&#8221; business?  Puh-leeze.  Too many companies are making too much money with Free Software (e. g. Red Hat).  It comes down to actually having a decent business plan, and if you don&#8217;t have one, you&#8217;re going to be toast no matter what field you&#8217;re in.  On the contrary to alienation, Free Software is a very good way to help *save* your business, because of its overall cost-effectiveness.</p>
<p>&#8211;TP</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Internet and Technology Articles. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476352</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Internet and Technology Articles. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Open Hacking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/10/06/the-open-source-initiatives-corporate-status-is-suspended-a-caos-theory-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-476328</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory » The Open Source Initiative&#39;s corporate status is &#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Open Hacking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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